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Date Posted：03/10/2009 18:32 PMCopy HTML Email messages are hard to keep track of so I am listing them here.. ----- Original Message -----
From: Liz Taylor
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: Hi Barb!
Hi Barb...
Just hoping that you are the Barb I think you may be!
Lost all contact, been searching for a while so fingers crossed!
Liz Taylor xx
(Brampton. Ont)
lizzytaylor@hotmail.
Hi Liz
Of course I am the right Barb - how did you find us?? I guess I changed our email address since we were last in touch!!
What is new with you and family? We talked about your coming for a visit - is this the year??? B From: Liz Taylor
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Barb! I took only a few pics yesterday and this was one of them...Is it you? From Barb
No, This is my Cousin RoseMarie Vessio and her brother Richard! Great picture though! They are the children of Joan (my mothers sister) Joan died sometime ago and we never had a lot of contact with them, but probably should try to get in touch again.
Included Anne in this since she has email! Never met any of you but would love to.
I scan whatever I can get hold of like a madwoman - try for high resolution but it is easier to see details, especially on the old photos. Unless you already have it - I thought you would like this photo of Alexander Taylor and Elizabeth Tindall Taylor (your grandparents!)
So glad to have reconnected. The website you found me on is one a friend and I did for our town (history and genealogy) Barb From: Liz Taylor
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Barb! Ohhh Thanks so much for that!! (I have to say it looks like dad with a hat on!)
I have sent it to Ed and Alex.
Apparently I think Harvey was doing some Taylor stuff
So...How far have you come in doing it?
What are you looking for now?
I have had much of my stuff 'stolen' during the many moves and housefires and car thefts (including those tiny tapes) but I do still have a lot of documents around.
I will get a scanner...I just decided yesterday to start saving them via photos for now.
Probably good for now if I just send the emails on to Alex and Ed as opposed to you having all our addies and different info back to each person...Would be nice to keep it all in one place...but I'm sure it would be OK to give it to you if you wanted it.
Heres a few pics of my two...Jesse is 22 (and his girlfriend Ashley) and Tamara is 23 From Barb Thanks for the photos - but what does the caption on your photo mean???? ;-)
It is fine for you to be the conduit for info and photos (especially if Alex is worried about security) - I sent to Ann because you sent her email address and since she is new to the internet I thought it might be good for her to see how easily you can connect with people and get and send things that way.
If Harvey is doing any family history please give him my email address - I have tons of stuff from researching LDS microfilms as well as what is online - it would be a shame for him to spend time on what I have already found (and vice versa) I have a subscription to Ancestry.com which has a lot of information.
I had finally found Alexander's mother (since he was born in Peru I had wondered if his mother was South American but she is English) - Alexander's father Alexander was born in Scotland - I have been unable to track his ancesters. Alexander's mother was Sarah Austin, born in Hampton, Middlesex. She had 8 siblings and I have tracked many of them.
Re photos - as I said, I have a really good scanner (can even scan negatives and slides) and I enjoy making good copies of photos, to be able to share them and especially to save them! If you would like to send me a packet of photos I would love to be able to scan them for you and can send them back quickly with both good copies and a CD with all the photos. One of our big projects for our town has been to borrow old photo albums and scan and copy all the pictures (many from the 1800s - some on daguerrotypes or tintypes) I am cheaper than buying a scanner and have become very proficient at getting the best out of very old photos. So consider it. What kind of documents do you have - anything really old????
With that.........here is the photo of the day (I dont have many Taylor photos, but this is especially nice)
Taken in about 1916 when Leonard was home from Australia - you may remember that my mother had said they all believed that Leonard had died in the war when he went back to Australia after this photo - but I found information that he had lived there until 1973.
This photo is - Left to right - Front Row - Leonard, "Mother" (Elizabeth) "Dad" (Alexander) Rose (my grandmother) and Steve (Shoosmith - my grandfather) Back Row - Margaret, Ted and Poppy.
I can see a resemblance between Ted as a teen and his father - especially around the eyes.
Barb
PS Tell Harvey I am anxious to hear from him (he is my daughter's age) and I do need updated information (have "Valerie" as Doble) ??
From Barb Hi Liz,
I guess I sent you all I have about Leonard then - I forgot you were going to contact the cemetery. I still may follow up on that one day. So if I repeat things I have already told you - let me know. I guess I didnt send these photos though?? Or did I?
Love the photo of you - "toil and trouble".......what was in that cauldron anyway??? (Our barbecues usually include a grill) ;-)
I really liked the wedding photo - nice to see lots of faces to go with names (though I imagine most have changed a bit since then) ;-) Do you and your siblings get together very often?
When I scan, the copy is usually 2-4 megabytes (unless it is a tiny photo). Then I make smaller copies (like I did with the 1916 one) to send via email. But usually I can print a full page print of many scanned ones and have them come out pretty nice (depending on the original of course)
So what is new with you - are you still painting? B
From: Tony & Barb Vellturo
To: Liz
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: Another picture They were (at times anyway) quite well off - This is the Taylors - Alexander is obvious - Elizabeth with the big hat.
No idea who the others were......... Barb From: Liz Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Fw: Another picture Wow...Amazing to get these pics eh?
From Alex
Liz, Yes great picture, possibly the other guy may of been the one that they went out drinking with a lot.
Alexander had a bet, that they would kill themselves, he put his head in the oven, and turned the gas on? Alexander went through with it, but his mate dit not.
Am only going by what dad told me. I think he said he was drunk at the time.
Remember also, that he used to be hard on Elizabeth when he came in from drinking down the pub?
I think Ed has the large picture of when he rented a bus, to take his workers out on a picknick?
Thanks
Alex From: ALEX TAYLOR
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Taylor family History Hi Liz,
Thanks for the old pics.
I was going through some of my old files, and found some history stuff that mum wrote about dad, also some about the Wallis family. I know you said that Barb and Tony were trying to put together a family history perhaps they may be interested in the info i have?
Who has dads birth certificate, do you have it Ed? Pobably Ed has some info also that we do not have.
How far have you got with the History Barb, have you just started with it.?
Anyway folks keep me posted.
Thanks
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/10/2009 18:33 PMCopy HTML
From Barb Hello Alex,
How nice to be included in your message - it is great to finally "meet" my cousins. I met your Dad and Mum once when they came to visit my parents (who are also Barbara and Tony) ;-) and Liz and I have talked on the phone.
I started on the family history in about 1993 (when Tony took early retirement and we moved to Vermont)
Spent many many hours with rented microfilm at a VT (Mormon) Family history center - going through parish records - and then on the internet. Attached a pedigree chart giving you the bare bones of the ancestors - and a "report" of the Taylor side. I am pretty much stuck in Scotland - Alexander's father gave his fathers name as John and occupation farmer, on his marriage certificate - dont know how I could ever recognize the correct one.
I can send a similar report on Elizabeth Tindall's ancestors (she was Alexander's wife) if anyone is doing family history (Liz said that Harvey may be....) Would also like to know how Alexander (your grandfather) came to be born in Peru - maybe his father was working on the railroad there?
Do not have anything on the Wallis side but would be happy to see what I can find.........
Regards, Barbara (from snowy Vermont)
From: Tony & Barb Vellturo
To: ALEX TAYLOR
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Taylor family History PS Yes, I am very interested in anything you find!! Barb
From: ALEX TAYLOR
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Taylor family History Barb,
That's great what you have accomplished, looks like you have spent much time on research, and putting this project together.
I would like to support you with any info I have.
Liz, are you doing the same thing, or is your project different about dad?
Maybe the best thing to do, is to pass any info to all of us, depending how much we have got. Because I do not know what Anne, Edward, and you have got Liz?
Probably best, if you all respond to everyone on this e mail advising of your interest, and whether you want to be involved.
I don't mean to be bossy Liz, it looks like Barb has done a super job, and it would be a shame if one of us had info, and not passed it on. Liz your other project with the graining about dad was great, and I do not want to undermine that.(but also I don't want to stand on your toes for the other project you plan?)
Please advise
Thanks
Alex
ps Barb, you have my birthdate incorrect. Alexander Thomas Taylor born Dec 28th 1940. Born in Salisbury.District of Amesbury.Wiltshire ( Residence 20 Torriano RD. Larkhill, Durrington Wiltshire)
Fathers rank/profession Builders Foreman. Alex, from what I know of Liz, from our little contact - you couldnt easily "boss" her into anything she didnt
want to do. ;-)
Thanks for the corrections in dates and especially Liz, for the added "personal" info - they really help make a "real" picture of the people involved. Auntie Poppy came to Rhode Island once to visit us - all I remember - a rather round woman with a lovely smile and photos of her two little dogs - she made marmalade while she visited.
Alexander's father (Alexander) was a baker so that is likely what he did in Peru - wonder how he happened to be there? He and Sarah Austin married in London but their first three children were born in Tacna Peru. I wrote to the British Embassy there but they had no birth records. All 3 were baptised on their return to England. Alexander (Sr) death record
DEATH: St Olave, Southwark, Rotherhithe
23 June 1882 at St Olave's Union Infirmary Alexander Taylor, 56 years, Baker of Bermondsey Cause: Phthivis 3 years Informant: Caroline Jones, Matron, St Olave Union Infirmary Attached is another (almost the last) of the great OLD photos that I have - Alexander taking his employees on an outing. Elizabeth in the far back beside Alexander. My gran said that he would periodically be very well off - then lose it all. Not sure how he lost it - did he gamble?
Barb
PS I have lots of detailed info from census records - occupations etc. but dont think you want to be "inundated" - they are only of interest when one is really "into" genealogy. But let me know.
And I "misspoke" about the Workhouse master being the father of Margaret/Marguerites baby Edith. He was the informant for the birth but didnt say he was the father (my assumption) ;-) She was a dressmaker at the workhouse.
From: Liz Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:14 PM
Subject: Family Site OPEN...PLEASE REGISTER AND JOIN!
I have finally opened our new family site!
I'm really pleased with how its turned out...Still a lot more to do and its ongoing so will only get more interesting.
I havent changed the settings yet to make it private...I would like everyone to register with aimoo here (click on link)
Add your name, a chosen ID (I'm TinLizzy...Anne is Anne3) type in a password and your email addy...etc
The bottom portion is optional
ONCE YOU HAVE REGISTERED with aimoo...go to the site (click on link)
and click on JOIN (its listed along the top under the main pic) and I will accept you and then close the site to public viewing.
Go to the top 'board. 'General discussion (click on the title itself even though the whole box is highlighted) and read the welcome message I have left for you..
See you there!
(Don't you worry Anne...you are already a member...lol)
Liz xxx
If anyone is having problems email me with your ID or I will register for you.
Hi Liz, I registered yesterday, i tried to log in today, and did not work. I put in forgot password, and nothing came back.
Have i done something wrong?
Thanks
Alex
Hi Liz,
I could not get in, password problem?
I submitted request for "forgot password" but could not locate. does it come in on the site? or reg email.
If it comes in on site, how can we get in??
I see i have got two logins, One should be deleted. Its confusing.
Please advise
Thanks
Alex Liz,
I have only been through a little of your postings - you have done a wonderful job!! Can you please send me a larger scan (higher resolution) of the old picture of the Taylor outing that I did not have?? I can see Alexander on the right but would like to look for Elizabeth. Was it among your father's things?
Please also send me whatever information (dates and places) you have for your mothers family (and the Grogan's whoever they are) I can try to see if ancestry.com has any information - though only census info to 1901 is available so far. Some limited transcripts of the 1911 are available but very pricey so I havent gone after any of those yet. Need dates/places to be able to research though. Barb
Hello again
Found this photo of my grandmother Rose Taylor Shoosmith on the right and her first two children Marie (born 1917) and Joan (born 1918) My mother Barbara had not yet been born. Rose's sister, Margaret Taylor is on the left. Photo must have been taken about 1920.
Hi Liz
Thought everyone might like the attached info (and picture of the ship) about Alexander Taylor
age 19 in the 1881 census. If you have trouble posting it, let me know. Barb From: Liz Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Alexander - 1881
Barb...thank you so much for everything you are sending...I'll have the pics sorted soon...
I cannot open that pic...I can get the text on wordpaqd but I dont have 'Word' so I cant see the pic...Is it poss to send another way or the pic as a screenshot?
Or as a 'picture'?
Heres the pics...I explained about them in a post... (1900 is the size of the file)
Liz Hi Liz,
Here is the text - picture attached B
Oh, it looks as if the picture made it into the email too - you learn something new every day!! ;-)
From: Tony & Barb Vellturo
To: Liz
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Photo of Margaret and Rose
Hello again
Found this photo of my grandmother Rose Taylor Shoosmith on the right and her first two children Marie (born 1917) and Joan (born 1918) My mother Barbara had not yet been born. Rose's sister, Margaret Taylor is on the left. Photo must have been taken about 1920.
See how useful the passport was - you can order Mary's birth record and maybe have more information but we have Sarah's maiden name! Barbara
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915Since it worked last time I am pasting the passport document (which is wonderful) into this eamail. I also converted the word document into a pdf so let me know if you can view it that way (there is a free adobe acrobat reader which can be downloaded if you dont have it) I am in the process of downloading Edwards attachments - (my ISP wont automatically download if attachments are too many/too large :-( so I have to do them one at a time. ) I am especially excited to see a photo of Lily - the Taylor sister who died!! Among us all we will have quite a collection!! Barbara
Hi Edward,
Did you get my last e mail? you have not responded yes or no. Have you been on vac?
Liz has created a great secure family site, with all kinds of interesting info, you would enjoy it.
Anne has joined and is doing ok on the computer now.
Harvey, still not heard from you either.
Will you get back to us and let us know if you are interested.
Thanks
Alex
Liz,
I got a failed message back saying you did not receive, Perhaps Barb can send to you in a different format, if that is the problem? But maybe you should of received and not able to open up?
The photo with the painting of the girl is Lillian died 9 years old of Diptheria?
Thanks
Alex From: Tony & Barb Vellturo
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Exciting info from Alex!! Alex, I havent downloaded everything yet - my ISP wont download messages with large or many attachments but I can do them one at a time. What wonderful documents - especially your mothers family notes!! She had all the info on the families inclucing her mother's family!! So...........you are Scots on Alexander's side and Irish on Sarah (Wallis) side......... ;-) Look forward to reading it more closely. what an awful story of Alexander's "end"!!
Alex - at the risk of seeming terribly ungrateful - could you take another photo of the painting of Lilly (image 4257) - from a little farther away so it includes the entire frame and if possible without the date stamp from the camera. I would love to print a large copy of it - it is lovely. I'm sure it will be clear enough even taken a little farther away. My grandmother's (Rose Taylor) memoirs say (then there was a diptheria epidemic, two of my sisters died. Your mothers
Attached a photo of my Aunt Marie (Shoosmith) and her husband Jimmy Kilcoyne (now deceased), since you included a 1973 letter from her.....
Liz, let me know if you were able to view the pdf - thats the easiest way to get "word" documents to you.
(by the way, semi-colon between names works the same as a comma - its what my email program puts in automatically) I would guess Alex' email to you bounced because of size limitations (same as my server not downloading to my computer)
THANK YOU AGAIN, Alex. Barb |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/10/2009 18:48 PMCopy HTML Barb,
Yes of course i will get another picture copy to you. Am busy right now, will forward in a day or so. Am trying to fix my sump pump right now.
I sent another e mail to Liz, and only put qty 6 attachments, hopefully she will receive.
Thanks for the picture of Jimmy and Marie, sorry to hear they died?
We had some good times with them at there trailer, (they had an Airstreem) also with Sharky their friend that lived around the corner at their house. We even met them one year at 1000,000 islands holiday park with their camper they put on the back of their pickup
I remember we then went to visit Joan and Tony at their cottage ( Big cottage) with the lake, what happened to that place? I remember Tony worked for Coka Cola.
Thanks
Alex
Barb and Tony,
Sure nice to meet you, Yourself and Liz are dooing an excellent job With this family history stuff.
I have gone through some of my heritage info, and included them in the attachments. I did not choose to make smaller for an e mail attachment, because i thought you would not be able to read them. However if you want clarification, just advise.
The horse and buggy is in Derby rd. The house on the left is #33 John Murray's. #26 would be opposite the second long wall, which was Dr Tuens(not sure of spelling) Dad did tell me, he used to do jobs there to earn money, and also he lived above the garage. All it was was rafters?
Some of other info was letters that we asked mum to write down, (for just an occasion like this?)
Hopefully this wont take too long to download.
Love to all.
Alex and Joan.
Liz,
Hanve not got lot of time, trying to fix sump pump.
I will remove a few.
Let me know From: ALEX TAYLOR
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Exciting info from Alex!!
Barb,
Yes of course i will get another picture copy to you. Am busy right now, will forward in a day or so. Am trying to fix my sump pump right now.
I sent another e mail to Liz, and only put qty 6 attachments, hopefully she will receive.
Thanks for the picture of Jimmy and Marie, sorry to hear they died?
We had some good times with them at there trailer, (they had an Airstreem) also with Sharky their friend that lived around the corner at their house. We even met them one year at 1000,000 islands holiday park with their camper they put on the back of their pickup
I remember we then went to visit Joan and Tony at their cottage ( Big cottage) with the lake, what happened to that place? I remember Tony worked for Coka Cola.
Thanks
Alex Hi Alex,
Take your time on sending the photo - but it is wonderful.
Jimmy died in 1998, but Marie is still "going strong" at almost 92 (in May) - in fact she was golfing almost every day a few years ago and went on a cruise with my folks - also a few years ago. Sharky died several years ago. Joan died of cancer in 1984 and we never had much contact with my uncle Tony (you have a good memory) or Rosemarie and Richard for that matter. :-( Their big place in the Catskills was wonderful - I seem to think Richard may have gone to live there, but Im not certain.
So now that we know you do travel, WHEN are you coming to Vermont - we have a pretty large house, lots of land (pretty rural area) We would love to have you visit!
And Elizabeth!!! If you dont stop jumping on the bed -
 all you will get is emails from eveyone else saying how wonderful the attachments are!!!! ;-) Did you get Alex' email with fewer attachments? Could you open the PDF? If so I will send Edwards other word document with your dads seaman papers that way. Barb Liz,
Here is the rest that i sent this morming, let me know if you receive.
Thanks
Alex
Attached Lilly's portrait - how do you take a date out??? Tell me what you are missing tomorrow and I will try to send - but it looks from the website like you got several (including your dads seaman papers) Barb Very early in my family history research I corresponded with a very nice person who checked the archives for Alexanders service records - attached a synopsis (I have the actual documents) He was (as we can see from that document Alex sent - and Mary's family history report) - not the best behaved sailor but as my friend wrote
"he sounds like a fairly typical jolly jack tar" I was surprised at how small he was - only 5 ft. !
Barb
Liz has done a wonderful job retouching! It is so exciting to have a one of a kind portrait of someone who died so young (wonder why they had her portrait done and none of the other children - was it after she died??)
And who is the second sister who died? - I have never seen/heard/found her name.
Although this group is more about Ted and Mary and families - I thought you would like to see this photo of my Gran (Rose) at a similar age to Lilly - they do resemble each other. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony & Barb Vellturo
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Exciting info from Alex!! Hi Alex,
Take your time on sending the photo - but it is wonderful.
Jimmy died in 1998, but Marie is still "going strong" at almost 92 (in May) - in fact she was golfing almost every day a few years ago and went on a cruise with my folks - also a few years ago. Sharky died several years ago. Joan died of cancer in 1984 and we never had much contact with my uncle Tony (you have a good memory) or Rosemarie and Richard for that matter. :-( Their big place in the Catskills was wonderful - I seem to think Richard may have gone to live there, but Im not certain.
So now that we know you do travel, WHEN are you coming to Vermont - we have a pretty large house, lots of land (pretty rural area) We would love to have you visit!
And Elizabeth!!! If you dont stop jumping on the bed - all you will get is emails from eveyone else saying how wonderful the attachments are!!!! ;-) Did you get Alex' email with fewer attachments? Could you open the PDF? If so I will send Edwards other word document with your dads seaman papers that way. Barb Barb,
O dear, i thought that Marie was dead, Please dont tell her.
We lost contact with her after she moved from the the small bungalow she and Jimmy had next to a golf course in Florida, i remember visiting her, that was the last we heard.
Thanks for the invite to Vermont, it would be great to visit with you, however i dont see that happening in the immediate future, but we would like a rain check.
If ever you want a trip to Ontario, you will alway's have a place to stay. It would be nice if you came here.
Again, Liz and Barb keep up the great job you are doing, you have exceeded expectations with all this info.
Its coming together so fast, it is hard to absorb
Thanks
Alex From Ed Hi Liz, It was great to be in touch together a couple of weeks ago and to catch up with all your news, and naughty of me for not replying straight away to your pages and pages of email. Have been busy at work and am now recovering from a hernia operation. Everything is o.k. I’m fit and dandy. Thanks for all the info you passed on to me, it took a couple of days for me to get through it all. It’s fantastic; it must have taken a long time for you to do all of that. What a narration, you will have to take it further. What about this genealogy project! It is so fascinating, and for Barbara and Tony to have started it off, they have done a great job already and from what I can see already deserve a commendation. I will certainly help in any way I can and have included copies of Mums passport and Dads seaman’s log. There are some photographs still to come, after I get them copied. Let me know if sending it in this WORD format is alright or not because I can put together a copy of the photograph with the writing which is on the back of the photograph on one page. It’s a good idea to keep everyone informed together, so I will send copies of this to those who you have been communicating with. Yes, I do want to go on this new link you have created, it sounds a very good idea. I will try when this is sent off to you. Love and Best Wishes to All, Edward. |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/10/2009 19:34 PMCopy HTML By the way Barb...
Not sure if you realised I am a twin!   |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/10/2009 20:08 PMCopy HTML Hi Liz,
Now I will have to change the family tree again!!! (to add your twin) ;-) Nice outfit. As to the email question I will go along with what everyone prefers - but I am personally more used to sending emails (and to groups) - genealogy, family, etc). I make Lots of folders so easier for me to find things. The site is wonderful, but already getting soooooooo much stuff I am not sure exactly where to look for things - old photos, information etc. But whatever people want to do - I can always copy from the website and store in my folders. ;-) And we are bound to run out of stuff to add eventually, right??? - unless you want me to start sending census info, info on Alexander's mother and her siblings etc etc etc.................... Barb |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/10/2009 21:13 PMCopy HTML I'll answer you in a sec Barb...just posting your email..
Dont see that you have this on yet (or have I missed it somewhere?) and it is such a nice picture. Maybe you dont have it in digital format? Barb
 Posted on this thread... http://taylorfamilyinfo.aimoo.com/General-Discussion/Mum-and-Dads-Pic-1-1405755.html Barb...by all means continue doing what is best for you...I will add your emails to here to not only keep the continuity going, but to make it easier to refer back to older info that I have already noticed, during posting, that I missed or have forgotten. A quick scroll down this thread reminds us of every little comment and I have given everyone their own colour so its easy to glance at who wrote the post. Regarding the complexity of the site....I tried hard to make it as easy as possible.. It may not be apparent HOW easy it is...EVERYONE has difficulty until they 'get' the concept. Think of it as a filing cabinet... First page (home) is the filing cabinet with names on all the drawers. Once you open up a drawer you choose the folder that interests you. Open up the folder and thats where you will find all the info on the subject. eg...You want to check on info about mum and dad. Open the home page and scroll down to 'Mum & Dad' Click on that and then choose the 'folder (thread) that interests you. There may be one on their pics...One on Dads accomplishments..0p-.09999999999999 one on what you do with an ELMO who decides to walk all over your keyboard! If you have a pic of them, or want to look at pics of them...open the pic thread.(folder) Filing Cabinet (Home Page) Drawers (Gen Discussion...Mary and Ted....Shoosmiths etc.) The General Discussion is the TOP DRAWER and the one that is being used for all current stuff...Ill then file it away afterwards...so no need to go to the Filing cabinet...just open up the top drawer and check all the posts ive been working on that day. Once finished...go to 'TITLE' and click on General Discussion to return to General Discussion I will be adding some links to make it easier just under the top pic...its HTML though so it takes me time to do it! Don't worry if you dont get it yet... Gen Discussion...Open choice thread...Close thread when finished...Return to Gen Discussion...open another thread...close thread...return to Gen Discussion. Want to research the bigger pic of everythig filed away? Go back to home page...Choose the drawer open and then choose thread...open..when finished return to home page... you can make this thread a favourite...or create a shortcut icon on your pc...RIGHT CLICK...choose CREATE SHORTCUT...and there will be an icon on your pc to open when you want to access You can do that with any page. |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/11/2009 19:35 PMCopy HTML Hello Cousins - Will try to stick to one (genealogy) subject at a time ;-) Ignore what does not interest you!
This is about Elizabeth Tindall Taylor - Alexander's wife - mother to my gran Rose and your dad Ted (Your mum got much of it right) I think she may be the "E" in the E.A. Taylor business name - the artificial flower business came from her family. Info below that is Elizabeth Tindall Taylor is in black - my notes re "peripheral" family are in red. Barb Elizabeth was born Jan 9, 1860 to Thomas and Frances Tindall
BIRTH: Mar 1860, Clerkenwell 1b 556 CERTIFICATE #58
Reg Dist Clerkenwell, Sub Dist Pentonville Birth Ninth January 1860 73 Southampton St.
CHRISTENING: LDS Film # 0590840 St John the Baptist, Shoreditch #2898
daughter Thomas and Frances Tindall, Florist abode 14 Bevenden Street Elizabeth was the third of 8 children born between 1855 and 1873 - the second son Thomas apparently died very young
Thomas Tindall: BIRTH/CHRISTENING: LDS Film # 0374361 # 2997 St Andrew Holborn,
birth 8/9/1857 Christening 9/6/1857 Father Flower Maker abode Mount Pleasant
Census info gives some detail - son Thomas never appeared in any census so likely died
1861 CENSUS: RG9/196 Clerkenwell Folios 49 to 56
52 Southampton St - 2 families in same house George Tindall; Hd; M; 57; Cab driver; b Turnham Green [in parish of Chiswick, Mddx]
Elizabeth do; Wife; M; 67; -; b Clerkenwell George R do; Son; M; 33; Compositor; b City George R do; Grandson; -; 8; Scholar; b Islington Sophia A do; Granddau; -; 5; do; do Thomas Tindall; Hd; M; 30; Artificial florist; b Shoreditch
Frances do; Wife; M; 29; do; b Criplegate Frances do; Dau; -; 6; Scholar; b St Lukes Elizabeth do; do; - ; 1; -; b Clerkenwell 1871 CENSUS:
RG10/450 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Folio: 43 Page: 7 Household schedule number: 42 Thomas Tindale 49 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head Flower Maker
Francis Tindale 39 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Wife Flower Maker Francis Tindale 16 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Flower Maker Elizabeth Tindale 10 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Alexandria Tindale 8 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Emily Tindale 6 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Rose Tindale 3 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Beatrice Tindale 1 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter 1881 CENSUS: RG11/361 St Lukes, Mddx (Ecc Dist: St Clements)
folio 100 /page 212 City Rd Thomas Tindall; Hd; M; 51; Cutter Out; b Hoxton
Frances do; Wife; M; 50; Artificial Flower Maker; b London Frances do; Dau; Unm; 25; do do; b St Lukes Elizabeth do; do; do; 21; do do; b Clerkenwell Alexandra do; do; do; 18; Needle Woman; do Emily do; do; do; 15; Scholar; b Hackney Rose do; do; do; 12; do; Hoxton Beatrice do; do; -; do; do MARRIAGE at the Parish Church of St Luke, Mddx 20 Feb 1888
Alexander Taylor, 25, bach, Seaman, res: 208 City Rd father: Alexander Taylor (deceased), Baker Elizabeth Tindall, 28, spin, Artificial Florist, 208 City Rd, father: Thomas Tindall (deceased), Artificial Florist By banns; both seem to have signed; Wits: John Henry Wagner, Emily Tindall (Note - John Henry Wagner was the husband of Elizabeth's older sister Frances. Dont find that they had any children but they were apparently quite close to Alexander and Elizabeth's children. Leonard listed them as his contact on his first enlistment and in 1891 both Rose and Poppy were living with them )
1901 Census: Living with Aunt and Uncle in Hackney
Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiatical parish: St Phillip Dalston County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG13/223 Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: South-West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 74 Page: 69 Household schedule number: 514 John H Wagner abt 1856 Mile End, London, England Head Letter Sorter General Post Office Frances Wagner abt 1855 St Luke, London, England Wife Frances E Taylor abt 1890 Hoxton, London, England Niece Poppy M Taylor abt 1894 Hoxton, London, England Niece 1891 Census: RG12/188 Page 14
14 Englefield Road Alexander Taylor, Head, M 29, Artificial Florist, b. South America Elizabeth Do, Wife, M, 31, Do, Do b. Rose Do, dau, S b. Hoxton Jinnie Wood, serv (f) 13 b. St. Lukes 1901 Census: Civil parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiatical parish: Christchurch Hoxton
County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG13/270 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 60 Page: 51 Household schedule number: 397 Alexander Taylor abt 1863 British Guiana Head Shoreditch London Artificial Florist Elizabeth Taylor abt 1861 Pentonville, London, England Wife Artificial Florist The only of Elizabeth's siblings that I found with children was her sister Alexandra who married a William Graham and had a son Albert J. Graham - here is Alexandra's info
England & Wales, FreeBMD Index: 1837-1983 Record
Name: Tindall, Alexandra Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1887 District: Holborn County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 1121 Graham, William 1887 December Marriages Tindall, Alexandra 1891 CENSUS: Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthews
Town: London City County/Island: London Source information: RG12/170 Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South ED, institution, or vessel: 27a Folio: 117 Page: 62 GSU Number: 6095280 Graham, William R abt 1863 Tuban, Sunderland Head Seaman Graham, Alexandra abt 1864 Hackney, London, England Wife Graham, Albert J abt 1890 Stratford Son England & Wales, FreeBMD Index: 1837-1983 Record
Name: Graham, Alexandra Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 35 Quarter: March Year: 1898 District: Hackney County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 394 ***************
From my Gran's Memoirs:
My mother's family was very religious and did not even cook on Sunday. Mum told me that if I looked in the mirror too often I could see the Devil looking over my shoulder.
 Thread with full size pic here.. http://taylorfamilyinfo.aimoo.com/General-Discussion/Elizabeth-Taylor-Tindall-1-1407230.html From: ALEX TAYLOR
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Elizabeth Tindall Taylor
Hy Barb,
Great job, really appreciate you 1st, taking the time to gather all this info, and 2nd sharing it with us.
I was looking at the picture of Elizabeth Tindall, Ted Taylor is the splitting image.
We have got more smaller pictures we will sort eventually, and put up for all to see but not right now.
After you gave me Marie's phone # i gave her a call, she is getting on fine, and told me she is 91, and enjoy's her cruise once a year with her sister Barbara, also play's golf twice a week.
I asked her about Caroline, because we did meet her 35 years ago at Marie's. she is age 50 now.
I tried to give Marie my e mail address for Caroline to contact me, but kindof gave up, bit too confusing. Anyway Caroline will hopefully call me.
I asked Marie about the other brother that died, she did not know anything about it. She did not know about Lillian either?
Perhaps some time down the road, before we conk out. we could have one big reunion, like a barbeque or??
Not sure if anyone would be interested, or the location. Just a thought.
Thanks again Barb
Alex Oh, I LOVE the idea of a reunion - we could certainly do it here!! ;-) Lots of space - we can put some up and there are a lot of inns etc nearby.
So glad you called Marie - she must have loved that!! I am copying this to my last known email for her daughter Caroline - it was from some time ago so not sure it is okay anymore.......
And I hadnt noticed before - but you are right - Ted did look like his mother! Barb
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/12/2009 00:10 AMCopy HTML Alex...by all means continue using whatever you are most comfortable doing...I will be adding all the emails here anyway so they can be viewed easily and with links to the threads with info from the emals
I have added 'stuff' to posts and they are not only easier to view but I included the text for mums 'history'. The benefit of email is transferring good quality pics...just adding comment here is good and far easier to view back over old comments...Like I say...do what you are most comfortable with.. Well, Liz you have certainly started something - ;-) since you said you wanted info on "all" the descendants of Alexander and Elizabeth - and so I could sort of "meet" my cousins...... I put together the attached on "my family" - from my Mum and Dad... Liz I know you can get the pdf but does it work okay for you to put on the website? (Can you cut and paste??) You are certainly keeping me busy! ;-) Barb       Heres the thread that all the info and pics are posted http://taylorfamilyinfo.aimoo.com/General-Discussion/Family-of-Anthony-Parisi-and-B-1-1407538.html Barb...I couldnt copy paste pics OR save to computer from the pdf files..so I had to take a screenshot Suits the purpose of the thread anyway...How great to see all those pics.. I remember meeting Frank and Johnny in Derby Rd...don't remember the year. |
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I have the big medal, The Freedom of France. It is packed up somewhere? Alex |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 01:22 AMCopy HTML Ohhh thats great Alex!
I have just had a thought on something...let me check..Ill be back in a sec... |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 01:37 AMCopy HTML I was wrong...I was thinking it may have been the medal that Leonard lost...but of course not...This is the medal you mean right...the one mum spoke about in her story...
William Wallis died during the war while on service in during the Battle the Somme 18th April 1918 (exactly the same date as Harriet 1928 and Jamie 1984!) It was reported that he was killed (Alex!! camera date...lol) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ one his own guns while in the line fire He was given the Recommendation Medal and the Cross and two others (not known) also a high honour the Freedon including the oriod? de Guere with picture (not known what has happened to them over the years) |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 03:32 AMCopy HTML Liz, what is an oriod? also what is a de guere.
When i find the medal, i will take a picture and send it. You never advised if you received the second batch of pictures i sent as an attachment. Also hopefully Caroline may contact you, did you see the e mail i sent her. Bye Alex |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 10:39 AMCopy HTML Liz, what is an oriod? also what is a de guere
Alex, As can be seen in the notes that mum wrote, I couldn't make out what she had written..Maybe you can tell...or I will try Googling for more info...Here is the thread... http://taylorfamilyinfo.aimoo.com/General-Discussion/Mum-s-Story-1-1406024.html William Wallis died during the war while on service in France during the Battle of the Somme 18th April 1918 (exactly the same date as Harriet 1928 and Jamie 1984!)
It was reported that he was killed (Alex!! camera date...lol)
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 12:08 PMCopy HTML When i find the medal, i will take a picture and send it.
That would be great Alex...Thanks You never advised if you received the second batch of pictures i sent as an attachment I sent you an email onthe 9th March "Received with no prob...THANKS Need some help with your sump pump? lol" but I also managed to get the rest from Anne and added them to this thread in Gen Discussion. Alex Big Email (Click to view) . Also hopefully Caroline may contact you, did you see the e mail i sent her. I received all the emails but my pc is so bad (I had dowloaded SKYPE for another forum I am moderating and it used up all my memory which is less than half the recommended minimum..128MB) i tried for about 15 mins to post it and gave up... I uninstalled Skype so I can post a little better right now and will probably do so in a minute...(If I can get Elmo off my lap!) |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 12:16 PMCopy HTML William Wallis died during the war while on service in France during the Battle of the Somme 18th April 1918 (exactly the same date as Harriet 1928 and Jamie 1984!)
I find it amazing that Mum's father, Harriet and Jamie (my first) ALL died on the same date...April 18th! Mum died on April 10th. I have also noticed that there seems to be a lot of birthdays around the end of the year..January in particular....or maybe its just that I noticed them because thats my birth month.  |
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 12:28 PMCopy HTML I told you we lived in the "middle of nowhere" ;-) This is looking down on our house from "Vulture Mt" - (small "mountain") ;-) The White River is behind the house. The house was new in 1996 - you can see a bit of the old barn toward the front of the property - it was built in 1847. Barb
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 12:31 PMCopy HTML Hey Barb,
Nice place, especially next to the river. How about snow, do you get much? Do you ever get snowed in.
now I know what you meant when you advised in the middle of nowhere, kind of the Boonies. Looks like you have to pack a lunch to go to the store for milk? But really picturesque.
What happened to the original house?
The river dosent look too deep, does it ever crest the bank.
Hope fully you will hear from Caroline.
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 13:32 PMCopy HTML This post been added to ALEX board http://taylorfamilyinfo.aimoo.com/Alex-1-62261Under this thread (Click to view) Alex Family Pics sent March 10 09 with larger pics )Both links open new window)
 1155 When Anne visited us with her dogs.  1303 Edward when we visited England Sept 08.  0038 Our two dogs. Brandy and Doogle  0102 Anne May 08 when she visited us .  1108 045 Alex off somewhere.
 1108 730 presentation of gold ring from Fire dept for 25 years volunteer.  1108790 Anne and Joan off out, probably shopping?  1108880 Marc relaxing. When he came Christmas day  108891 Harvey Relaxing Christmas day. Dont have many of Liz, I think you said she sent you some. Have made photo's smaller to send. Liz, advise if you do receive.
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/13/2009 19:11 PMCopy HTML Filed with full sized pic in Shoosmith Board on this thread
Where we live Click to open in new window Hi Alex, I had received an email from Caroline from my original "cc" to her (before she wrote to you) and had explained what the deal was with the new Taylor contacts.
Attached a view out our front door last December - the old barn and the 1847 farmhouse (which we owned until we sold it - that side of the road). We do get a lot of snow in the winter but in Vermont they take good care of the roads and they are usually plowed first thing in the morning. Tony has a snow blower on his John Deere so takes care of our driveway. Our house and field is on a bank - the woods behind slopes down to the river (maybe 50 ft below) - it doesnt usually overflow its banks but wouldnt affect us if it did - though the nearby village (called Gaysville after the Gay family) was completely wiped out in a flood in 1927 (if you are interested in it and my town - a friend and I have created a history and genealogy website - more than 30 pages - at
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Re：Daily Messages - Add Comments Date Posted：03/14/2009 01:35 AMCopy HTML It looks just like a picture postcard with the snow.
Also looks like a very nice place to have a family picknic? (I was just thinking of your offer previously) Would be nice to get as many of the family together as possible. ( so we could all meet) Obviously this is something that would need to be planned a year or so down the road, also how many would be interested?
I kind of get a sense of some little rifts among families, hopfefully these can be overcome?? It would certainly be worth it.
Anyway Barb, I am just thinking aloud, but it would be good to get some feedback.
Logistics is something that can be worked out later depending on the interest.
Thanks
Alex From: Carolyn Szolosi
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: Taylors-Carolyn Kilcoyne Szolosi
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my name is Carolyn. But I am confused my mom had no brothers? Was your dad her Uncle maybe. Yes I would like to see Elizabeths website. did I meet you in Canada or England ? I remember being in Canada when I was about 15 meeting ( maybe it was your kids ) they brought me to a bowling alley I think (o:Copyright © 2000- Aimoo Free Forum All rights reserved.
